[DankNesS]

Aw the good ol lift thread... So redundant but I can't resist adding my two cents. Nwoods I have nothing but. Respect but couldn't disagree more about Iceland flares. I know you have em or might even be a part of the company but no way is that the first move. 600 bucks and all u have is flares? Something a sawzaw can do for free? Granted not everyone likes the cut look but 33s to start learning how to drive very well could = smashed 600 dollar flares. Don't get me wrong to each their own. I think the best way to go that also is easy to add to is a f to rear spring swap add an inch and a quarter spacer in rear RE or what ever spring u like @ 3.5. This is a good start of lift to get the rig up, beginners tend to high center time to time. The kit can be just like that but I'd recommend KevinsOffroad or similar TB bracket w a jks or similar adjustable trackbar. That centers the axle but is also the most expensive part of the lift. You COULD stop there no biggie but I'd encourage shocks and jks or similar sway bar disconnects. Control arms are not needed at this point- hammer down pinch seams and on 31s you will be greatly improved Offroad w minimal on road loss. Hence encouraging shocks. Short arms on road are not dreadful as most think they probably heard stories or they them selves had crap shocks. Spend the cash on shocks = smoother ride right? Same for good front springs no jy diving get a good brand.

At that point 31s will be good but 32s or 33s will be better... To upgrade shoes you'll need lower front CAs for certain uppers are a good idea to add shortly after to get the axle forward. @3.5 lift it isn't a must to have an adj rear track bar but a good idea especially if higher is in the cards for later. Another add on front brake lines not a must @ 3.5 but if u go bigger they are.
Driveline is cherry tcase drop is not for Zjs and a waste of money. Drive shafts are good even at higher.

So basically save 750$~ get good springs 3.5 for front spacer front springs to rear TrackBar bracket and adj TB and GOOD shocks should also cover disconnects and maybe have some to spare. View my build the beginning I rocked that and had a blast! Later got used upper and lower front control arms pushed axle forward slapped on 33s then added 2 inch spacer went o 35s adding as I went a long. Iceland flares for 3.5 lift and 33-35s down the road is a good alternative to cutting and trimming like I did. Note stock Dana 30 and 35s don't like big tires so building your axles for your style and preference is key. Welcome to the addiction! Its different for us all if we knew we wanted rock krawlers we woulda bought a buggy lol instead we build em out of family wagons! Ha ha love it tho

 

[DankNesS]

Front over rear for sure. Track bar drop? Is there a new track bar adjustable? That is a key component for any lift over 2 inches

 

[DankNesS]

Front over rear lower adj CAs.. I'd do front springs to rear if it saves you some loot at least for now

 

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Any doubt u have about front springs to rear look in the build threads mine is NesSsDank I'm at 5.5 w RE 3.5s up front stock fronts in rear w 2inch spacers all around... My short arms even flexed sexy. Now long arm is night and day but the stock front in rear have yielded zero draw backs for what its worth

 

[DankNesS]

i did read and and thinnk you took me out of context- i also said down the line to stuff bigger tires into a shorter lift the flares are a great idea. trying to do a low budget first lift fender flares for me wouldnt so much satisfy my desires. yes low lift big tires i cut the piss out of my fenders but also really dig the look over fender flares- that at this point would be a waste of money via dove nose underway. its a lot of coin for the first buy is my point get it up a lil bit adj tb som ca's then maybe flares. no beef brother your rig is saweet i also i said i respectfully disagree implying your opinion is valid and credible. sorry i also only reply on my phone for the most part ie horrible banter no proof read etc etc

 

[DankNesS]

Cheers Northwoods I think its easy to get defensive on here me bein prolly one of the quickest ha ha.
Iro is a solid brand what's it include? Front TB bracket or the Lil rear drop bracket that is easily ripped off?
Front TB adj is needed rear adj TB later or axle side bracket or both. Supports welded to rear axle bracket being another good idea. FYI w the Iceland flares you don't hack your jeep and actually looks better then stock

 

[DankNesS]

Front adj TB is a must IMO but it'll probably drive. Your post about LAs is the dumbest thing I've read good job! Money should be the only complaint better ride handling offroading geometry of the angles amount of droop etc etc is a good thing and pwns any short arm. That was a joke right?