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Like everyone else, the instructions are quite vague. Oh yea, 7-8 hour to install, don't count on it. Plan on a weekend, if you don't have a lift and working off the floor.. The problems I encountered while installing the kit: (there are pros listed later)

REMOVE THE FRONT DRIVE SHAFT AND THE COMPLETE EXHAUST SYSTEM. Just my recommendation, gives you a lot more room to work with.

IF YOU HAVE TO REPLACE ANY WORN HARDWARE. ONLY USE METRIC GRADE 10.9. THIS IS A SPECIALLY HARDENED AND TEMPERED STEEL. Of course, available at your local stealership.

1. Somehow the 98 GC Limited uni-body frame is wider than most (shrugs). I called Rusty on this and they use a jig to ensure the transmission/front LA mount fits. My tranny/frame mount is different than what is out there. Mine has only 1 slot. I had to drill out the provided tranny mount to make it fit.

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2. Try drilling a 1/2" hole straight in the uni-body frame. Doesn't happen unless you have an angle drill (I didn't). My 1/2" hole went at an angle upwards, so I put the bolt in and pushed it upwards so that it was straight. I then took my small square and made a line around to the other side and drilled a pilot hole and then the 1" hole. As for drilling a 1" hole on the other side, a hole saw is your friend. A 1" drill bit does not work, believe me (smashed fingers from the torque on the drill) and the hole saw is so much quicker. Like 1 minute.

3. Not enough flat washers. The tabbed bolts need a washer on the inside of the frame so they will not get pulled through. In the instructions, they say to fish the tabbed bolts through an opening that is already existing, why not put them through the 1" hole you just drilled, makes it easier.

4. When they say to snug the bolts up to mark the holes for the frame mount, make sure you do it. If you have under body corrosion protection, remove it. I did not and learned a lesson. I have a 1/4" gap in the rear of the passenger front LA/frame mount. I' have to fix that.

5. Spring compressors are not needed if you have tall enough jack stands. The axle will literally sit on the garage floor when the control arms are off. If you need, you can rent them at your local auto house store.

6. The rear sleeves that go in the frame are to short in my opinion, maybe got the XJ's. I put an additional 2, 1/2" washers (they just fit in the bracket holes where the sleeves go in)on each bolt. This made it flush with the outside of the bracket so the larger washer wouldn't get deformed. Should have taken a picture.

7. The front track arm bracket did not have an extra hole that was needed. Drilled a 1" hole to accommodate.

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8. The only stuck item I had a problem with is the Pittman arm. I got the nut off but not the Pittman arm. A Pittman arm puller and a 650 ft.lb. impact wrench did not work. Broke the puller. Going to soak in PB Blaster for a couple of days.

9. The kit should use metric hardware. Now you have to carry a standard set with you also. Not that it looks like anything would ever break, but you never know.

10. If you have a stock exhaust system, the stock muffler is too wide and long.

11. Looking at the picture, Rusty's need to make the rear High Clearanced also.

Nice to have tools:
Angled drill motor.
Impact wrench
T55 Star wrench (for the track arm)
1" hole saw (a quality one)
1/2" Drill bit
3/8 and 1/2" socket set in metric and standard, up to 21MM and 7/8"
Set of combo metric/standard wrenches, up to 21MM and 7/8"
Pry bar
BFH

The mounting of the rest of the gear was straight forward. The mounting of the brackets, for me, has been a PIA due to inconsistencies for my vehicle. Been rode hard and put away to dry.

If you forgot like I did, the rear exhaust pipe goes over track arm.

Pros:

I didn't have to weld to the uni-body frame.

I haven't seen Clayton's set up, but the bracketry on Rusty's is 1/4" thick. Grade 8 or better hardware is used.

I do weld inspections for a major company. From what I have seen from Rusty's, is very good. This, in my opinion, is a quality product.

I could not ask for better customer service than what I got from Rusty's. If your are reasonable and don't go half cocked when dealing with them, Rusty will bend over backward to help you. I called them 4 times before and during the install.

I paid for 3 day shipping and most of the boxes were here the 2nd day. The other 2 boxes showed up on the 3rd.

All of the items listed for the kit was there.

The ride is way better than my 5.5" short arm. (3.25 Teraflex and 2.25 BB) I removed the rear anti-sway bar when doing this kit and don't even notice it is missing.

It soaks up the bumps smoothly compared to the SA set up. I suppose ALL LA kits will do this.

The biggie, NO drive line vibrations. I had to have a 1" transfer case/tranny drop before.

The wheels are more centered in the wheel wells. Before the tires were about 1" from the body. Now they are about 3-4" depending if its the front or rear.

Another vs, one of the reasons I went with this kit is because it has bushings instead of eye bolts. This absorbs a lot of the road vibes instead of transferring it to the body.

Over all opinion:
Its a PITA to install this kit if you think its going to get done in 1 day. 3, 6 hour days for me and I have been turning wrenches for 35+ years. Rusty's need to get a better installation guide made up. I had times scratching my head trying to figure how to install something. Actually if there were pictures of what it looked like after installation. I have quite a few if anyone needs, just send a PM. Now that everything is installed, I am quite satisfied with the over all looks/ride/ and damn the articulation.


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Hey great write up on this kit. If you want my opinion, put in some extension posts in the rear because the flex will make your spring pop out. I know this from experience as both rear springs popped out on the trail yesterday with some serious articulation. Also, get some 2" spacers and help those arms have a little more compression room from the body, that's what i did and it still rides great.

Lastly, the crossmember situation i'm in the process of finding a remedy for. I'll plan on doing this as a nice write-up probably next weekend if nothing comes up, but yes that is really the only major design flaw.

Oh right and do yourself a favor and get some angle iron 1/4" think and weld it between the brackets to extend the load across the whole lift, this will make it less reliant on a few bolts and make it a ton of bolts. Here's a pic:
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Glad to see someone else is as pleased with the cost and do ability of this kit like i was. Now beat the crap out of it like i do, it'll hold up.
 
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I have the 2" pucks sitting on the bench. Just need to put them in. Then again I have a header that I still need to put a 2 1/2" flange on for a 2 1/2" full exhaust system. I need to get the rest of the 8.8 brackets welded on also. Then the 4.88's and 35's.
 
That was the plan eventually, but i think i'll get some lockers before i BOUGHT rock sliders.
 
AndyZJ said:
That was the plan eventually, but i think i'll get some lockers before i BOUGHT rock sliders.
Man that is the second time you and I have been on the same page with this setup. Except I don't have the time or resources to do it and you do! When I'm done with school I'm going for the IR long arms.

By the way I think we've officially hijacked this thread.
 
I don't really have the time either, but i do have a yard full of metal and my dad loves to tinker around like i do. So it will eventually get done.

Oh yea, sorry for jacking the thread.

Here's a question, what did you set your rear control arms at to get the axle pointed better at the Tcase?

And where did you measure to, in order to make sure the rear axle was straight?
 
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I went with Rusty's recommendation for the lowers. My TC splined shaft is at 8 degrees down so I set the pinion angle to 7 degrees up. As for it being straight, I still have to work on that. I'm going to bring it to an alignment shop and see where it is sitting at right now and adjust from there. So far it goes straight down the road.
 
What did you do about the passenger side swaybar attachment?

Rusty's told me to bend it up out of the way and i did, just wanted to know if you had trouble with it and if they told you the same thing.

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I'm talking about the Y section, like in the picture i have above, it was hitting on the bracket for the swaybar disconnect.

They told me to bend it up out of the way and that seemed to work fine, i was just wondering what you did about it if anything.
 
Well i'm sure mine hits because of the added 2" spacers i have so that pulls the draglink up further and so it interferes with the disconnect mount. If you are going to put those spacers in, i'm sure it will hit. I plan on going bigger in a year or so, then i'll obviously need to weld on new longer mount locations.
 
Immediately i hate the short guy, haha. Also, they skip the hardest step!! Drilling those holes to get those reinforcement brackets. That's the worst part. Locked98 you can back me up on that. Once those holes are drilled, its simple part replacement. Man i hate the short guy! :mrgreen:
 
Looks nice, I was checking out their site, looking at the Long arm upgrade kit. It says for those who are satisfied with their height and just want the long arms. I have the RE 3.5 SF, could I upgrade to these long arms? I would put in 1" spacers so I have 4.5 lift.


Does that sound good?

I realy like you Setup man, and i would love to have long arms, but I dont want much more lift.
 
If i had to do it all over again i would have gone with something else since that cross-member doesn't drop out easily, like Clayton's, to remove the tranny. But if you want it, then get it. The arms are definitely beefy! I have no complaints about those, just that cross-member.
 
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