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yeah but he helped design the damn thing. He gets credit where credit is due. The only reason why he doesn't build them himself is because proto has a much larger shop.
 

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KOR rear bumper is a very solid bumper, very strong letch.
But... It's very hard to open. Personally, I need to wear gloves to open the letch so I will not have lingering pain on my finger for 5 min, plus my weak lower back make it worse. I basically avoid using my trunk unless it's absolutely necessary. I put all my shopping stuff on the back seat. The rear tire vibrates a little on the freeway sometimes if the road is not smooth, but nothing bad enough to bother you. Believe me, I am a very picky person & I don't like any clicking noise in my ZJ. My mech always forklift the car from the bumper may work on my ZJ, so I know it's super solid for sure. But some modification & welding will be needed to install the bumper. So beware.

One really good thing about KOR rear bumper is that you can push your rear axle more backwards. As a result, your can fit bigger tires without trimming on minimum trimming on the rear fender, which I think trimming greatly affect the aesthetics of the ZJ. In additions, pushing the axles backwards enhance the overall on road performance.

Over all, if I have another chance, I will still buy KOR bumper. It's simpling the most sexy & solid rear bumper out there.
 

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I just found out that Hanson has discontinued their rear bumpers for the ZJ and XJ, as per the sales rep at Oconee Off-Road.

FYI Oconee is having a free shipping sale until 31 May 2008 on a lot of items including bumpers. They have a good price on the ARB Bull Bar...got one on the way :)
 

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jeepbus1 said:
I just puchased the Iceland offroads flairs and bumper .Have not installed them yet.They are top quality. Don't be scared of the fiberglass.
Let us know how they work out for you, especially when you hit something, but really i wanna know how well they will hold up
I've got a set of the flares and the flares themselves hold up well hitting stuff I've slid into trees and such and done nothing to them besides scratch the paint off. Their weak point at least on mine are the bolts that hold them on. Two of them have busted off from the flare easy to fix just an inconvenience.
 

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rtingdds,where and how much welding did you have to do to install the rear bumper?i have the front one and want to get the tire carrier soon also.dont have a welder or welding exp.also what kind of mods were needed?thanks.
 

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I see the pic of the KOR rear bumper and tire carrier and it looks SWEET!! Was wondering if any one running an aftermarket, bumper front or rear, could post some pics so us guys shopping could have something to check out?? And could you post what you think of it?? This would be a HUGE help!!
 

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im getting the kor rear bumper.just havent decided on tire carrier or no tire carrier.a lot say no,stuff the tire in the back because the spare can get caught on obstacles and kill your departure angle.it would be more convenient,look better and free up space in the back if it was on the bumper though.another thing is the 290 dollar difference will probably go the cheaper route and go with no tire carrier.just get some oba or air compressor to pump the spare up if needed.
 

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When I did the Rubicon trail (double black diamonds trail) & big bear (black diamond trail), the spare tire was never even close to a issue. And it is a 35". I think getting caught on the rock is not a issue. I took off the spare tire for a week to save gas and my wife made me put it back on. She said the spare tire at the back makes the car looks way better, that warrents the expanse on gas. However, the tire do vibrate at 70MPH if the freeway is a little bumpy. No problem on newer freeway surface.
 

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Thanks Texas ZJ1 for creating this thread. It is still worth it weight in bumpers!!

I was trying to find a Winch Bumper and tire Carrier Bumper fo rmy ZJ and the links here was just what I needed.

I thought long and hard about ordering from Kevins and maybe even driving there for an install and wheeling on the way down and back. Then I decided I was going to go with a set from Proto Fab, but had a communications problem with them (I since have talked with them and I think the problem has been resolved) and so I ended up placing an order with Custom 4x4 Fabrication.

Received conformation last night that they had received payment and I should get my Winch Bumper in two weeks and the rear Tire Carrier & Bumper two weeks after that. Now to find a winch and have it ready for the install.
 

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I bought KOR's front Stealth bumper with prerunner/stinger bar on it. I love it! Super sturdy, good lookin...and it holds up well!
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love the bumper but do those outer bars interfere with you headlight beams?
 

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not at all. the angle of the picture just makes it look like that! ive been very impressed with this bumper all the way around!
 

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For all the questions on the icelandoffroad product!!! Im currently looking at flares and bumpers and i have been drilling the guy i purchase from for about 2 months on them and there made out of marine fiber glass. So think of a boat! Also he has the flares and the front bumper he loves the bumper and has hit it off trees and rocks and he has scratched the paint but not cracks at all!!! The flares as someone stated before and the guy i deal with stated the bolts do rip out and he said he ripped his out hitting a tree but just stratched the flare itself!! If anyone does order from them be prepared for a long wait though because they are really backed up and i ended up buying bushwacker flares because the price was right and way quicker shipping!!! Also a site dedicated to only cherokees is csl offroad and the guy is really good to dealwith and will hunt any part your interested in!!! www.csloffroad.com
 

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as far as the iceland flares go....you ppl do realize that most non grand jeep owners do buy and use fiberglass fender flares(example=Bushwacker),pay a fair amount for them and wheel with them.So why is there a problem with us zj's running them? As far as trashing them on the trail, that depends on the type of wheeling you do. Most zj owners wheel their rigs but don't trash them....... just my 2 cents.
As for price vs. lift? if i was to add more lift then 4.25 I have, then I'd need a SYE kit and a new driveshaft and new upper control arms ,that would cost me way more then the flares.
Bushwackers flares aren't fiberglass...they are plastic. Now I'm not saying that they are any better or worse than the Icelands. But if you look at fiberglass and how it reacts to getting slammed around, then take a look at plastic of the same design, thickness, or what have you I would think the plastic would hold up better to abuse...just my 2 cents as well ;-)
 

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Great thread.

This is why I love this forum. I have been looking at winch bumpers now for a year and this is the first time that I have found this much information. I have also been looking at the flares and was wondering whether anyone here has installed the bushwackers and what they thought of them. I like the look of the bushwhackers a lot more but do not think the plastic would hold up as well as the thick fiberglass units from iceland or open up the wells nearly as much. Thanks to everyone for all of the info though. The bumper winch combo is a pretty big investment, (especially if your married) and it is awsome to have this much information before you buy.
 

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The Bushwhackers don't open up the wheel well as much that is true. With the Iceland flares you get a good amount of trim all the way around the fender well, opening it up quite a bit (and much more work for the rear wheel wells I might add) compared to the Bushwackers where you open up the width of the wheel well not the height, the Bushwackers seem to give you a bit more "coverage" in terms of flare stickin out but that depends on your set up weather you need that real 2'' of flare out there to cover larger tires. As for the durability I can't tell ya first hand which one holds up better, I am just as curious myself...lol

Hope this helps some
 

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Bumpers and Flares.

I have looked at the iceland offroad flares and really like the idea of fiberglass and how they look but I am scared of the install. I have an old fiberglass boat and it is tough as nails. The strength issue is not a worry for me but I really tend to shy away from anything that requires you to use Great Stuff foam on your jeep. I am as "redneck" as the next guy but that is pushing it. I still use mine for my DD and have to have it running and Leak free! I also would worry about the body rigidity in the area of the cut. I work in construction and know firsthand Expanding foam is nowhere near stuctural. Has anyone installed these and had problems out of them, or found a way around the great stuff? If so I really like the look and the low ceter of gravity while stll running bug rubber idea. Thanks for all the replys.:)
 

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Just a thought to add to the fiberglass versus plastic for the flares, on my race bike the fairings are fiberglass. All aftermarket race fairings are fiberglass due to the durability of it and the ease in repairs. Took the road bike around the track a couple of years ago and ended up running off into the weeds. Mostly saved it but went down anyways. Nothing damaged to the bike mechanically, but cracked up the entire right side of the plastic fairings. Have been down several times on the race bike, but in one instance that was very similar to the crash on the street bike, went down at a faster pace, and broke off the left clipon, bent levers, tore off the brake resevoir, but the fiberglass fairings were only scratched up. Didn't even bother to repair, only painted over the scratches. in my opinion, the fiberglass is far superior for durability than the plastic.
 

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