ZJ: Anyone running stock length control arms with 33's? - North American Grand Cherokee Association

chadjans · 05-20-2002, 11:06 PM

ZJ: Anyone running upper and lower stock length control arms with 33's? I have done some fender trimming front and rear and not afraid to do more. Just wondering if anyone has run 33's with stock length arms.

Chad

Chris_L · 05-21-2002, 07:43 AM

I may be wrong, but I think Nate Cannon is running 35's with stock arms.

LindaL · 05-21-2002, 10:06 AM

I am running 285/75r16s (33x11). The front arms are stock length. The rears are kicked back about 3/8". But I have a 6" lift to keep the body off the tires.

dave · 05-21-2002, 10:23 AM

Assuming the tires aren't oversized, you can drive home from the shop with 33's and no trimming. Barely. Remove the lower-most cladding in front of the rear tires first. Take it easy turning and in driveways.

At ~22" with 32.1x10.5 TSL's and stock arms I had to trim the usual.

-Lower-front corner of the rear tire well. Took off maybe 1/2" of the corner to get 3/4" clearance.
-Lower-front of front bumper fascia. The lugs would catch in turns and make a racket.
-Pinch welds inside wheel wells. Some appear to be designed for tire-knife duty.

In back, slightly longer arms will help reduce trimming but then tires will hit earlier under compression. In front, longer arms will increase the amount of cutting necessary with factory bumpers.

Backspacing and tire width affect lots up front. Not many people have your exact combo, and none have your zj. Be prepared to stuff & turn to find danger spots before wheeling. Don't ruin the new shoes!

Dave

chadjans · 05-21-2002, 09:11 PM

Rear fender trimming, so far:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...805911&start=1
This is a nice option for people that don't want to trim all the metal behind the rear doors.

Front fender trimming so far:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...127703&start=1

Most of the pinch weld is gone. Except for the lowest part. I didn't trim that because it a joining section to a box section of the frame. Hopefully as the tire archs up it will clear that. We will see.

As far as the front bumper I am missing most of that, and hopefully even more after Kevin's front lower rad support.

I am thinking I will go the pizza cutter route and get some 33X10.50's. It sounds like it will be easier to stuff that in the fenders. I have come to the conclusion that the rear fender is big and easy to stuff a real tire in it, but the front fender is a different story. Now on to further discussion...

Chad

05-20-2002, 11:06 PM	#1
chadjans Senior Member Grand Master Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,202	ZJ: Anyone running stock length control arms with 33's? ZJ: Anyone running upper and lower stock length control arms with 33's? I have done some fender trimming front and rear and not afraid to do more. Just wondering if anyone has run 33's with stock length arms. Chad __________________ My Jeep Willing, wanting and able to work hard business college grad looking for work. Know of a lead? Please be kind and email me at chadjans@yahoo.com.

05-21-2002, 10:06 AM	#3
LindaL Senior Member Grand Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mesa, Az Posts: 206	I am running 285/75r16s (33x11). The front arms are stock length. The rears are kicked back about 3/8". But I have a 6" lift to keep the body off the tires. __________________ LindaL 1994 Dodge Cummins 4x4 1966 Dodge W200 PowerWagon 1954 Willys Wagon

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05-21-2002, 07:43 AM	#2
Chris_L Senior Member Grand Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: SOCAL Near the sand Posts: 824	I may be wrong, but I think Nate Cannon is running 35's with stock arms.

05-21-2002, 10:23 AM	#4
dave Senior Member Grand Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 185	Assuming the tires aren't oversized, you can drive home from the shop with 33's and no trimming. Barely. Remove the lower-most cladding in front of the rear tires first. Take it easy turning and in driveways. At ~22" with 32.1x10.5 TSL's and stock arms I had to trim the usual. -Lower-front corner of the rear tire well. Took off maybe 1/2" of the corner to get 3/4" clearance. -Lower-front of front bumper fascia. The lugs would catch in turns and make a racket. -Pinch welds inside wheel wells. Some appear to be designed for tire-knife duty. In back, slightly longer arms will help reduce trimming but then tires will hit earlier under compression. In front, longer arms will increase the amount of cutting necessary with factory bumpers. Backspacing and tire width affect lots up front. Not many people have your exact combo, and none have your zj. Be prepared to stuff & turn to find danger spots before wheeling. Don't ruin the new shoes! Dave

05-21-2002, 09:11 PM	#5
chadjans Senior Member Grand Master Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,202	Rear fender trimming, so far: http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...805911&start=1 This is a nice option for people that don't want to trim all the metal behind the rear doors. Front fender trimming so far: http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...127703&start=1 Most of the pinch weld is gone. Except for the lowest part. I didn't trim that because it a joining section to a box section of the frame. Hopefully as the tire archs up it will clear that. We will see. As far as the front bumper I am missing most of that, and hopefully even more after Kevin's front lower rad support. I am thinking I will go the pizza cutter route and get some 33X10.50's. It sounds like it will be easier to stuff that in the fenders. I have come to the conclusion that the rear fender is big and easy to stuff a real tire in it, but the front fender is a different story. Now on to further discussion... Chad

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