From one newbie to others out there: Just a note to those wanting to run 33 inch tires, don't unless you are prepared to do a lot of fender cutting (even to fit 33X10.50's much less 33x12.50's). I put a 4.5" lift on my ZJ (the highest you can go without big money long arms), and I would recommend 31x10.5's 'cause 33's don't really fit (unless you don't feel the need to steer!). I am going to be cutting my fenders up front (the back end was pretty well fine after I cut the bumper, tire tires hit the body right as the axle hit the bumpstops). The front fenders need to be cut the whole way around, pounding over the pinch weld seam and re-welding it where it splits in the process to retain its integrity, then, the metal behind the bumper needs to be reshaped, the fuel evaporator canister needs to be relocated, etc. The top edge of the wheel opening needs to be cut open, then rebent and (I assume (I'll find out next weekend)) tack welded to retain its integrity (and the rebending keeps it from being a sharp edge that will cut your tires). All this is planned for next weekend, me and one of my buddies (hopefully). Even after all this, I still don't know if I will be able to steer at full compression (even with 2" extended bumpstops). To really make the room, it would appear that the foot wells need to be reshaped in order to open up the fender more but, I am a tall guy and I don't want to lose legroom. Now, if you only intend to cruise around the mall impressing the highschoolers, you can just cut the lower corners of the front bumper and street driving is fine (with 10.5 width on 15x8's with 4" backspacing). But, if you really want to use it, be ready to do some work! (I am not going to go into the fact that with 33's you are pretty much guaranteeing some breakage of axles!) Just figured I would give a word of warning to those that aspire to 33's as I did! :lol:

just to let you know 4.5" is not the highest you can go on short arms. you can do 4.5" w/ 2" pucks

Hummm? I'm at 5.5" & have not had to trim any part of the body. Now the bumper are a diff. story though. With stock bumpers quite a bit will have to be trimmed & the pich seams in the front fender wells have to be hamered flat. Of course the rear axle has to be moved as close the the front of the wheel well as posible too. This takes both upper & lower adjustable control arms.

Yep, that too. I couldn't do it without the bump stops & wheel spacers for my stock wheels.

I have: RE short arm kit, extended bumpstops, adjustable upper and lower rear control arms. Rear end is not the issue, it is fine (with my 33x10.5's). The tires are as close to the front as possible and perfectly center at full compression. Thay hit, but only right when the bumpstops hit (I may get longer bumpstops just to avoid any contact, we shall see). As to rims and backspacing: I have 15x8 inch rims (chosen when I thought I might eventually run 33x12.5's) with 4" of backspacing. Looking at the rear fenders in relation to the tires at full flex, it appears to me that I would have to do a significant amount of fender cutting to fit the 12.5's or, run 5 inch longer than stock bumpstops (I have 2" bumpstop spacers) As to the frontend, I will be hammering the pinch weld, and various bits of metal behind the bumper (along with relocated the charcoal canister). I have 2" extended bumpstops and if I can't get enough clearance by trimming, I will run longer. I was just warning those who might be under the impression that I was that 33's will fit with no more mods than just the lift. Regarding 4.5 inch lift made into 6.5 with the addition of 2" pucks, I would not find the ride of that acceptable as my ZJ is a daily driver. A lot of people DD their rigs and the ride quality lost with a large short arm lift seems not worth it to me. As to 35's I wonder how long of bumpstops they have to run! It seems to me that steering capability would be pretty dang limited due to the tightness of the wheelwells. I know I am not going to be able to turn fully to lock at full compression (hence my perhaps going with bumpstops that are longer still). Hey, BTW, I didn't say it's impossible, I just said it requires more work than I was ever under the impression of! :mrgreen:

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I like my hammer sawzall and no extended bump-stops

6.5 with adjustable control arms is just fine.

Hunter

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