I just joined and basically just got my jeep recently(93 grand wagoneer, basically the same as any grand made that year) im having trouble with the battery had to charge it three times in the last month. Now, the battery is from 93 as well right now im thinking its the battery but i doubt it. anyone got an suggestions? One more thing once i start braking from 35 or higher my car starts to judder what should i do replace the stabilizers, bearings or what? thanks a lot

A 10 yr old battery? That's way above average life. Mine lasted 4 years, which was not bad. Get an Optima!

The shudder... sounds like warped brake rotors.

yeah thats what i said i already bought one(optimayellow) and my dad is *****in about it but apparently he knows all(when he really doesnt). As you can tell hes very cheap or conservative. Thanks for the brake input i'll have to look at it with my friend

It is amazing that a 10 year old battery would even work. Optimas are only rated for 2 years and they are the best.

Why would Optima have an 8yr warranty if it's only rated for 2???

A battery lasting ten years is not impossible. A factory battery? I don't know. There are 60, 72 and 75 month warranty batteries out there. One of those could last ten years if treated just right.

I agree on the shudder being rotors. You may be able to have them cut if there's enough metal left and they aren't too out of shape. Otherwise replace or upgrade.

I have 3 optima blue deep cycle batts in my ZJ. They say that they should be expected to last 2 years of deep cycle use, which is regularly discharging to 70% or so and back. Regular staring batteries (red top) may be different.

Ah, that clears it up a bit.

Did you mount 2 batteries inside? Or did you figure a way to run dual batteries under the hood?

I'm planning on going with a dual battery setup one of these days. Right now the yellow top does ok, though I am finding the deep cycle doesn't go good with a winch. You need a quick discharge/recharge battery (like red, or blue starting). The Yellow top is more designed for RVs, playing the stereo all night, etc. Something that's a slow discharge.

Don't get me wrong though, the yellow top is still great. I had the Jeep parked for 3 months while I was TDY. Got home and it fired right up.

My families lawn tractor battery lasted 9 yrs. :lol:

2 of them are in the back by the sub box. They came as a package deal together in an enclosure for them, designed for marine trolling motor use called the "troll fury" from optima. All it is is two marine deep cycle batteries which you can wire in series or parallel if you want 12 or 24 volts. I use them all 3 wired in parallel with no isolators, to provide the stereo with the power it demands, but even with all 3 optimas, and 2 capacitors, I still get headlight dimming, although I never drop below 12V on the voltmeter anymore (vs 8-9V without the optimas).

Find the troll fury here, bottom of page
http://www.1st-optima-batteries.com/

thanks for everyones input. As far as the battery, im almost positive its the battery thats bit the dust not the alterantor. I think im gonna get the optima red and i'll have to check the brake rotors tomorrow when its not so damn cold. i swear its the coldest winter here in NJ.

You will need to take the brake rotors off and get them turned. If they are too warped, you'll have to buy new ones.

Red Top is a good choice. About $100 if you shop around.